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Part of the reason we have had such horrific wildfires in California recently is due to lack of forest maintenance and responsible logging, in large part due to environmental extremist actions.
Zero facts in this statement. The sole reason CA has had such horrific wildfires is due to the drought conditions present from roughly 2012 through last winter. "raking the forest" is a delusion Trump started as thought exercise going into re-election.

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Weren't the fires often in grasslands as well? Paradise, CA, if I'm not mistaken, wasn't surrounded by a forest.
Paradise was (and still is) surrounded by dense, young forests, mostly on previously logged land.
 
Part of the reason we have had such horrific wildfires in California recently is due to lack of forest maintenance and responsible logging, in large part due to environmental extremist actions.
Zero facts in this statement. The sole reason CA has had such horrific wildfires is due to the drought conditions present from roughly 2012 through last winter. "raking the forest" is a delusion Trump started as thought exercise going into re-election.

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Weren't the fires often in grasslands as well? Paradise, CA, if I'm not mistaken, wasn't surrounded by a forest.
Paradise was (and still is) surrounded by dense, young forests, mostly on previously logged land.
Tells ya what I know about California. :confused:
 
Part of the reason we have had such horrific wildfires in California recently is due to lack of forest maintenance and responsible logging, in large part due to environmental extremist actions.
Zero facts in this statement. The sole reason CA has had such horrific wildfires is due to the drought conditions present from roughly 2012 through last winter. "raking the forest" is a delusion Trump started as thought exercise going into re-election.

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Weren't the fires often in grasslands as well? Paradise, CA, if I'm not mistaken, wasn't surrounded by a forest.
Paradise was most definitely not in grasslands.
Basically anything south of Santa Cruz has wildfires fueled primarily by scrub brush (Woolsey, Camp, Malibu etc). There are some wooded areas in Big Bear and Mammoth, but they make their own snow so more draught resistant.

Paradise was farther north (near Reno) and in a forested area.

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Paradise isn't really all that close to Reno. In fact, its a pretty substantial drive, given the terrain and roundabout way of getting there. Paradise IS very close to Chico (home of Chico State U) and Oroville (home of that giant dam that got scary a few years ago during massive rainfall).
 
Part of the reason we have had such horrific wildfires in California recently is due to lack of forest maintenance and responsible logging, in large part due to environmental extremist actions.
Zero facts in this statement. The sole reason CA has had such horrific wildfires is due to the drought conditions present from roughly 2012 through last winter. "raking the forest" is a delusion Trump started as thought exercise going into re-election.

There is far more to forest management than "raking the forest". Newsom has done a terrible job and blames his incompetence on climate change. An easy out for the insufferable prick.
Yes, I'm certain Newsom would have been the pride of the republican party had he only spent tax-payer money on completely ineffective wildfire management strategies.

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What "ineffective wildfire management strategies" are you referring to?

I would have rather California spent more money on maintaining our forests. Instead it has been spent on a train to nowhere that practically nobody will use (if it ever even gets that far) and 24 billion dollars into solving the homeless problem that has only increased homelessness and no-one even knows how the money was used or tracked its effectiveness!
 
Paradise isn't really all that close to Reno. In fact, its a pretty substantial drive, given the terrain and roundabout way of getting there. Paradise IS very close to Chico (home of Chico State U) and Oroville (home of that giant dam that got scary a few years ago during massive rainfall).
Now Oroville actually is surrounded by grasslands and oak scrub, and was also host to a pretty serious wildfire in 2020, two years after the disaster in Paradise; it took three lives and thousands of structures. That North Complex Fire also started in the woodlands, though, and only reached the grassy hills when it was well under way. Generally speaking, grass fires are a frequent but limited threat in the northern California summer, unless exceptionally dry and windy conditions prevail. Which, unfortunately, they do more and more often as our climate shifts in a more Mediterranean direction.


Republicans are experts on fire management and would be able to save the state within a few seasons, unless you ask them specific questions about fire managment, at which point they bluster and change the subject. "Well anything would be better than Newscum!" they may be heard to assert.
 
Paradise isn't really all that close to Reno. In fact, its a pretty substantial drive, given the terrain and roundabout way of getting there. Paradise IS very close to Chico (home of Chico State U) and Oroville (home of that giant dam that got scary a few years ago during massive rainfall).
Now Oroville actually is surrounded by grasslands and oak scrub, and was also host to a pretty serious wildfire in 2020, two years after the disaster in Paradise; it took three lives and thousands of structures. That North Complex Fire also started in the woodlands, though, and only reached the grassy hills when it was well under way. Generally speaking, grass fires are a frequent but limited threat in the northern California summer, unless exceptionally dry and windy conditions prevail. Which, unfortunately, they do more and more often as our climate shifts in a more Mediterranean direction.


Republicans are experts on fire management and would be able to save the state within a few seasons, unless you ask them specific questions about fire managment, at which point they bluster and change the subject. "Well anything would be better than Newscum!" they may be heard to assert.
Yes, I'm quite familiar with the North Complex Fire in 2020. It burned up our family's 600 acre forestland property in Butte County in September of that year that has been in the family now for 99 years. It was devastating (in more ways than one), but fortunately, my cousin who had just retired as a USFS firefighter was able to make some phone calls in high places and, at risk to his own life, went in with some CalFire guys saved the two cabins on the property. Fortunately, things grew back fast and strong! Mother Nature knows how to recover from a fire, that's for sure. We are not quite back to normal (almost), except that the dead, burned trees are falling down constantly and blocking the road in. We expect a few more years of that.
 
Sorry to hear it. Valley kid that I am, I knew a lot of people affected by both fires, but thankfully the many horrific blazes of the last few years have spared my parents and other relations from direct harm. My students are another matter, alas. It was painful to watch our fire control system fall apart at the end of the last decade. Thank god for a fairly wet spring this year.
 
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