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The Axis of Upheaval - Russia, China, Iran and North Korea

The world situation is increasingly scary. If, as seems likely, power shifts to the Evil Axis, American Stupidism will be much to blame.

One of the many stupid ideas was rejoicing at the fall of the Soviet Empire and claiming that nuclear war was no longer a worry! But the Soviets, whatever their faults, were rational, sincere, and governed by committee. Now we have a world where sociopaths have much power. Psychotics like Putin or Kim may "push the button" if their bluff is called.

One reason that Russia turned to criminality was U.S. advocacy of a right-wing economic model when Yeltsin was making key decisions.
 
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And Russia has stolen 20% of Ukraine and killed many civilians.
Russia took back what was given to them on the condition of good behavior.
They behaved badly, so we take back what is ours.
And Israel has killed way way way more civilians in a way way shorter amount of time.
Can you cite where the condition of good behavior was written?

And what bad behavior towards Russia did Ukraine commit?
 
And Russia has stolen 20% of Ukraine and killed many civilians.
Russia took back what was given to them on the condition of good behavior.
They behaved badly, so we take back what is ours.
And Israel has killed way way way more civilians in a way way shorter amount of time.
Can you cite where the condition of good behavior was written?

And what bad behavior towards Russia did Ukraine commit?
Oh come on Man! Ukrainians have been big meanies to Russia for a long time. Big Meanies.
 
Can you cite where the condition of good behavior was written?
Everything must be written with you, right?
It certainly helps, don't you think?.

Here is the Treaty between the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic and the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic.

Please cite the bad behavior in the treaty that would nullify the agreement.
I don't see anything in that treaty which allows Ukraine stealing gas, banning russian language, burning pro-russian ukrainians and rewriting history. It's not written, hence not allowed.
Treaty is not a get Get Out of Jail Free card.
 
Can you cite where the condition of good behavior was written?
Everything must be written with you, right?
It certainly helps, don't you think?.

Here is the Treaty between the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic and the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic.

Please cite the bad behavior in the treaty that would nullify the agreement.
I don't see anything in that treaty which allows Ukraine stealing gas, banning russian language, burning pro-russian ukrainians and rewriting history. It's not written, hence not allowed.
Treaty is not a get Get Out of Jail Free card.
And does the treaty allow Russia to invade if there are any violations?
 
Can you cite where the condition of good behavior was written?
Everything must be written with you, right?
It certainly helps, don't you think?.

Here is the Treaty between the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic and the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic.

Please cite the bad behavior in the treaty that would nullify the agreement.
I don't see anything in that treaty which allows Ukraine stealing gas, banning russian language, burning pro-russian ukrainians and rewriting history. It's not written, hence not allowed.
Treaty is not a get Get Out of Jail Free card.
And does the treaty allow Russia to invade if there are any violations?
No, it does not. But Russia never tried to cover with a treaty.
Ukraine behaved badly and that's why they are being "invaded"
That's the rule based world order US follows, don't they?
 
Can you cite where the condition of good behavior was written?
Everything must be written with you, right?
It certainly helps, don't you think?.

Here is the Treaty between the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic and the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic.

Please cite the bad behavior in the treaty that would nullify the agreement.
I don't see anything in that treaty which allows Ukraine stealing gas, banning russian language, burning pro-russian ukrainians and rewriting history. It's not written, hence not allowed.
Treaty is not a get Get Out of Jail Free card.
And does the treaty allow Russia to invade if there are any violations?
No, it does not. But Russia never tried to cover with a treaty.
Ukraine behaved badly and that's why they are being "invaded"
That's the rule based world order US follows, don't they?
Yes, that’s why we Invaded France a few years ago when they breached an agricultural treaty. In fact, we routinely bomb other countries for the slightest violation of a treaty obligation.
 
Yes, that’s why we Invaded France a few years ago when they breached an agricultural treaty. In fact, we routinely bomb other countries for the slightest violation of a treaty obligation.
In fact, Babs, YOU'RE NEXT!! :hysterical:
That 2014 theft of Crimea is going to turn out to be VERY expensive. You should have honored the agreement PUTIN SIGNED in 1997.
 
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Can you cite where the condition of good behavior was written?
Everything must be written with you, right?
It certainly helps, don't you think?.

Here is the Treaty between the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic and the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic.

Please cite the bad behavior in the treaty that would nullify the agreement.
I don't see anything in that treaty which allows Ukraine stealing gas, banning russian language, burning pro-russian ukrainians and rewriting history. It's not written, hence not allowed.
Treaty is not a get Get Out of Jail Free card.
And does the treaty allow Russia to invade if there are any violations?
No, it does not. But Russia never tried to cover with a treaty.
Ukraine behaved badly and that's why they are being "invaded"
That's the rule based world order US follows, don't they?
Yes, that’s why we Invaded France a few years ago when they breached an agricultural treaty. In fact, we routinely bomb other countries for the slightest violation of a treaty obligation.
Cool, Why did you invade Iraq, Syria, Yugoslavia,.....?
Why did you blow German gas pipeline?
As for Ukraine, it was you who invaded it first in 2014 and even earlier than that.
And even after that Russia reached agreement/treaty with their illegal government which YOU torpedoed.
That's just a fact.
 
I meant to start a thread about something similar but this one will work for the article I'm going to share. Putin is going off his rocker even more than before and one does have to wonder if Trump becomes president again, will he join Putin in his plan to destroy Western Democracy.

It's a long article that was well researched, imo, with a lot of detailed information. I'll quote some so you get the idea.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/interactive/2024/putin-values-russian-society-conservatism/


To carry out this transformation, the Kremlin is:

  • Forging an ultraconservative, puritanical society mobilized against liberal freedoms and especially hostile to gay and transgender people, in which family policy and social welfare spending boost traditional Orthodox values.
  • Reshaping education at all levels to indoctrinate a new generation of turbo-patriot youth, with textbooks rewritten to reflect Kremlin propaganda, patriotic curriculums set by the state and, from September, compulsory military lessons taught by soldiers called “Basics of Security and Protection of the Motherland,” which will include training on handling Kalashnikov assault rifles, grenades and drones.
  • Sterilizing cultural life with blacklists of liberal or antiwar performers, directors, writers and artists, and with new nationalistic mandates for museums and filmmakers.
  • Mobilizing zealous pro-war activism under the brutal Z symbol, which was initially painted on the side of Russian tanks invading Ukraine but has since spread to government buildings, posters, schools and orchestrated demonstrations.
  • Rolling back women’s rights with a torrent of propaganda about the need to give birth — young and often — and by curbing ease of access to abortions, and charging feminist activists and liberal female journalists with terrorism, extremism, discrediting the military and other offenses.
  • Rewriting history to celebrate Joseph Stalin, the Soviet dictator who sent millions to the gulag, through at least 95 of the 110 monuments in Russia erected during Putin’s time as leader. Meanwhile, Memorial, a human rights group that exposed Stalin’s crimes and shared the 2022 Nobel Peace Prize, was shut down and its pacificist co-chairman Oleg Orlov, 71, jailed.
  • Accusing scientists of treason; equating criticism of the war or of Putin with terrorism or extremism; and building a new, militarized elite of “warriors and workers” willing to take up arms, redraw international boundaries and violate global norms on orders of Russia’s strongman ruler.
“They’re trying to develop this scientific Putinism as a basis of propaganda, as a basis of ideology, as a basis of historical education,” said Andrei Kolesnikov, a senior fellow at the Carnegie Russia Eurasia Center. “They need an obedient new generation — indoctrinated robots in an ideological sense — supporting Putin, supporting his ideas, supporting this militarization of consciousness.”

Scary shit! Read the entire article for a lot more details.
 
Seems like a right-winger's dream world. It's a reinvention of Fascism, rule of a single autocratic political party which supports belligerent nationalism, often with a personality cult of its leader.
 
I have my doubts that China will join Russia in their desires to take over other nations. It would cause a severe disruption of of trading between the two countries. It would cause a big upheaval in the US and a major recession if not a depression. in China.
 
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