• Welcome to the Internet Infidels Discussion Board.

Are the mid-terms already rigged?

Drumpf claiming yesterday "he's not worried about the mid-terms" when only a month ago, he was warning his pundits that "if the Dems win, I will be impeached" seems like a rapid turn.

I personally believe the presidential election was rigged (statistical impossibilities and all) but believe Musk had a huge hand in that.

Is it going to happen again?
Wait, what?! We beat on Trump (and rightfully so) for his ridiculous belief about the 2020 election being rigged for the Democrats, but you yourself believe it was rigged in 2024 election for the Republicans and nobody here is even batting an eye? Da fuq?
Which is exactly his MO. Accuse others of what he is doing.
That isn't exactly supporting the position. 2024 was not stolen. The people weren't happy. The Biden re-election run collapsed on itself, leaving Harris flapping in the wind with almost no tools to work with. The general public consensus on the economy wasn't positive (fair or not). The Dems losing isn't a crazy outcome. The Dems losing to a guy who amassed a mob to riot at the US Capitol is fucking crazy... but that is kind of where we are now. After all, Trump enacted global tariffs... to not even a whisper of dissent from a party that hates tariffs!
I just don't know that I believe this.
That stuff is inarguably true, but it neglects a little of what actually occurred. It’s not illegal, or election-rigging to make up shit about your opposition or take a quarter billion dollars from someone whose product needs the protection of tariffs, or to enact those tariffs once elected. Most of the amoral, unethical shenanigans in which the Trump cabal indulged were at least semi-sorta legal. But the really illegal stuff came after the election.
 
I will also assert it is likely on unrealized capital gains and "buy, borrow, die" that out of 300m+ citizens, under 1000 own and)or control more than half of all "gains" of financial leverage, and they or their administered organizations pay far less than half of all taxes on that.

I did some reading in fact that certain tax-averse (shit headed, selfish, often cartoonishly evil) groups will often try to obscure the tax burden of the wealthy behind figures of "taxable" income while completely ignoring those other "gains" of financial leverage.
 
Drumpf claiming yesterday "he's not worried about the mid-terms" when only a month ago, he was warning his pundits that "if the Dems win, I will be impeached" seems like a rapid turn.

I personally believe the presidential election was rigged (statistical impossibilities and all) but believe Musk had a huge hand in that.

Is it going to happen again?
Wait, what?! We beat on Trump (and rightfully so) for his ridiculous belief about the 2020 election being rigged for the Democrats, but you yourself believe it was rigged in 2024 election for the Republicans and nobody here is even batting an eye? Da fuq?
It isn’t like the thought hadn’t crossed my mind. We need people to get out and vote in huge numbers, making it much more difficult to rig or cheat.
Yes. Your non-voting cohort is so large it distorts any result.
 
Drumpf claiming yesterday "he's not worried about the mid-terms" when only a month ago, he was warning his pundits that "if the Dems win, I will be impeached" seems like a rapid turn.

I personally believe the presidential election was rigged (statistical impossibilities and all) but believe Musk had a huge hand in that.

Is it going to happen again?
Wait, what?! We beat on Trump (and rightfully so) for his ridiculous belief about the 2020 election being rigged for the Democrats, but you yourself believe it was rigged in 2024 election for the Republicans and nobody here is even batting an eye? Da fuq?
It isn’t like the thought hadn’t crossed my mind. We need people to get out and vote in huge numbers, making it much more difficult to rig or cheat.
Yes. Your non-voting cohort is so large it distorts any result.
You have no idea how hard it is to get non voters to vote. When I was still working, I worked with many young women who had never voted and they had all kinds of stupid excuses as to why they didn't vote. I finally convinced one and her mother to vote when Obama ran for president. They were Black women who really liked Obama. One day at our senior center, a woman told me she never voted in the Midterms. I wanted to scream, but I calmed myself and said to her friends, "Pleas talk to her." All of my friends vote in every single election, no matter how tiny, even if it's just for one little thing, like a once cent sales tax that's used for lots of good things, or one person running in a local election, but so many others for one stupid reason or another don't vote. It's not as bad as it was years ago, as a close friend of mind finally got her middle aged kids to vote when Trump ran, just so they could vote against him. Still, there are too many people who don't vote and too many people who listen to disinformation and vote for idiots. There are sadly also too many liberals who sit out elections because they expect perfection instead of simply understanding that perfection is a dream and one candidate is always better or worse than the alternative. Imo, that is probably why Trump won. Too many Democrats didn't vote because they were unhappy that the Dems didn't have primaries, so they didn't vote and let a deranged incompetent narcissist become our president. I even recall having a conversation wth a bright young man in Indy who had never voted. I gave him a little lecture, telling him that his vote was the only little power he had and he promised me he would start voting. I hope so. ( end of rant )
 
Looking like Talarico v Paxton could be one of the ugliest campaigns ever. Paxton is going full Trump, or professional wrestler, I'm thinking WCW era Chris Jericho.

Talarico is embracing it, offering Talafreako shirts online to raise money.

Being in Ohio, we have the ads already going. Husted... look at me, I'm in color, but Sherrod Brown... he is in black and white. Boo! I haven't seen many Brown ads at all.

What is really annoying is seeing ads online for Katie Porter... for the CA Primary! Thankfully her ad isn't obnoxious.
Drumpf claiming yesterday "he's not worried about the mid-terms" when only a month ago, he was warning his pundits that "if the Dems win, I will be impeached" seems like a rapid turn.

I personally believe the presidential election was rigged (statistical impossibilities and all) but believe Musk had a huge hand in that.

Is it going to happen again?
Wait, what?! We beat on Trump (and rightfully so) for his ridiculous belief about the 2020 election being rigged for the Democrats, but you yourself believe it was rigged in 2024 election for the Republicans and nobody here is even batting an eye? Da fuq?
It isn’t like the thought hadn’t crossed my mind. We need people to get out and vote in huge numbers, making it much more difficult to rig or cheat.
Yes. Your non-voting cohort is so large it distorts any result.
You have no idea how hard it is to get non voters to vote.
Australia is populated with human beings. Those human beings are like we are. They manage to get compulsory voting by making it the law.

The US would likely need to adjust election day into a holiday to make it work, but it could work, but I wouldn't expect it anytime soon or possibly ever as the Constitution does not remotely imply that voting should be compulsory. In fact, it specifically held people away from being able to vote. We'd likely need a constitutional amendment.

Tiger keeps bringing it up because they have little to actually contribute. *insert random issue* Well gosh... if only everyone voted, the USA would be so much better off.
 
Looking like Talarico v Paxton could be one of the ugliest campaigns ever. Paxton is going full Trump, or professional wrestler, I'm thinking WCW era Chris Jericho.

Talarico is embracing it, offering Talafreako shirts online to raise money.

Being in Ohio, we have the ads already going. Husted... look at me, I'm in color, but Sherrod Brown... he is in black and white. Boo! I haven't seen many Brown ads at all.

What is really annoying is seeing ads online for Katie Porter... for the CA Primary! Thankfully her ad isn't obnoxious.
Drumpf claiming yesterday "he's not worried about the mid-terms" when only a month ago, he was warning his pundits that "if the Dems win, I will be impeached" seems like a rapid turn.

I personally believe the presidential election was rigged (statistical impossibilities and all) but believe Musk had a huge hand in that.

Is it going to happen again?
Wait, what?! We beat on Trump (and rightfully so) for his ridiculous belief about the 2020 election being rigged for the Democrats, but you yourself believe it was rigged in 2024 election for the Republicans and nobody here is even batting an eye? Da fuq?
It isn’t like the thought hadn’t crossed my mind. We need people to get out and vote in huge numbers, making it much more difficult to rig or cheat.
Yes. Your non-voting cohort is so large it distorts any result.
You have no idea how hard it is to get non voters to vote.
Australia is populated with human beings. Those human beings are like we are. They manage to get compulsory voting by making it the law.

The US would likely need to adjust election day into a holiday to make it work, but it could work, but I wouldn't expect it anytime soon or possibly ever as the Constitution does not remotely imply that voting should be compulsory. In fact, it specifically held people away from being able to vote. We'd likely need a constitutional amendment.

Tiger keeps bringing it up because they have little to actually contribute. *insert random issue* Well gosh... if only everyone voted, the USA would be so much better off.
Would we really be better off with compulsory voting though? Unless compulsory "education about the issues" was also part of it. Otherwise, you're just going to get annoyed people voting for whatever loudmouth promises the most shiny, free things.
 
Education about the issues? Yeah, that'd be something. Annoyed people voting for whatever loudmouth... sounds like the GOP at the moment.

The non-voter voting? Can't be worse than the uneducated voter who votes.

Heard Talarico on NPR and he is campaigning like a Democrat would campaign in Texas. Going to the oldies but goodies, because being honest and pragmatic doesn't get someone elected. I think one can easily sum up the problem with politics:
1) the politicians
2) the people who vote for them

People say they want X, but vote Y every time. The GOP is likely to lose seats in the midterms because the GOP is in the White House. Sure, the current political situation with illegal tariffs, monuments, a stupid ass war, whatever the fuck happened in Venezuela, etc... doesn't help the calculus, but in general, the GOP will predictably lose seats because they won the last election.
 
Looking like Talarico v Paxton could be one of the ugliest campaigns ever. Paxton is going full Trump, or professional wrestler, I'm thinking WCW era Chris Jericho.

Talarico is embracing it, offering Talafreako shirts online to raise money.

Being in Ohio, we have the ads already going. Husted... look at me, I'm in color, but Sherrod Brown... he is in black and white. Boo! I haven't seen many Brown ads at all.

What is really annoying is seeing ads online for Katie Porter... for the CA Primary! Thankfully her ad isn't obnoxious.
Drumpf claiming yesterday "he's not worried about the mid-terms" when only a month ago, he was warning his pundits that "if the Dems win, I will be impeached" seems like a rapid turn.

I personally believe the presidential election was rigged (statistical impossibilities and all) but believe Musk had a huge hand in that.

Is it going to happen again?
Wait, what?! We beat on Trump (and rightfully so) for his ridiculous belief about the 2020 election being rigged for the Democrats, but you yourself believe it was rigged in 2024 election for the Republicans and nobody here is even batting an eye? Da fuq?
It isn’t like the thought hadn’t crossed my mind. We need people to get out and vote in huge numbers, making it much more difficult to rig or cheat.
Yes. Your non-voting cohort is so large it distorts any result.
You have no idea how hard it is to get non voters to vote.
Australia is populated with human beings. Those human beings are like we are. They manage to get compulsory voting by making it the law.

The US would likely need to adjust election day into a holiday to make it work, but it could work, but I wouldn't expect it anytime soon or possibly ever as the Constitution does not remotely imply that voting should be compulsory. In fact, it specifically held people away from being able to vote. We'd likely need a constitutional amendment.

Tiger keeps bringing it up because they have little to actually contribute. *insert random issue* Well gosh... if only everyone voted, the USA would be so much better off.
Australians I know resent the hell out of compulsory voting. Because its compulsory.
 
People say they want X, but vote Y every time. The GOP is likely to lose seats in the midterms because the GOP is in the White House. Sure, the current political situation with illegal tariffs, monuments, a stupid ass war, whatever the fuck happened in Venezuela, etc... doesn't help the calculus, but in general, the GOP will predictably lose seats because they won the last election.
Statistically this is true. So why when the 2024 election DEFIED statistics, are you so sure it wasn't rigged/cheated?
 
If the Republicans win big in the mid-terms, no one left of center will believe it for a second, any more than Trump and his people believed the results of 2020 were genuine. The main difference was that under Biden, Trump continued to rule from Mar-a-Lago as though he were still president of his faction. The political centrists have no such clear leader to unify their party in exile, no matter what people believe or don't. But either way, this is a post-truth age, and most people are becoming disconnected from politics altogether.
 
People say they want X, but vote Y every time. The GOP is likely to lose seats in the midterms because the GOP is in the White House. Sure, the current political situation with illegal tariffs, monuments, a stupid ass war, whatever the fuck happened in Venezuela, etc... doesn't help the calculus, but in general, the GOP will predictably lose seats because they won the last election.
Statistically this is true. So why when the 2024 election DEFIED statistics, are you so sure it wasn't rigged/cheated?
The exit polling indicated Trump won. It was clear around 9 PM or 9:30 PM from the exit polling alone (after I fixed my initial mess up in the calcs), that Harris lost. I remember bilby speaking otherwise, that we needed to wait. But the Exit Polling would have likewise needed to be corrupted in order to pull of the heist.

The 2024 election did not defy any statistics. The polls showed a very close election. It ended up being a very close election. What 2024 did was correct a misnomer that Clinton lost because she messed up in the North. Harris didn't do that, and still lost.
 
People say they want X, but vote Y every time. The GOP is likely to lose seats in the midterms because the GOP is in the White House. Sure, the current political situation with illegal tariffs, monuments, a stupid ass war, whatever the fuck happened in Venezuela, etc... doesn't help the calculus, but in general, the GOP will predictably lose seats because they won the last election.
Statistically this is true. So why when the 2024 election DEFIED statistics, are you so sure it wasn't rigged/cheated?
The exit polling indicated Trump won. It was clear around 9 PM or 9:30 PM from the exit polling alone (after I fixed my initial mess up in the calcs), that Harris lost. I remember bilby speaking otherwise, that we needed to wait. But the Exit Polling would have likewise needed to be corrupted in order to pull of the heist.

The 2024 election did not defy any statistics. The polls showed a very close election. It ended up being a very close election. What 2024 did was correct a misnomer that Clinton lost because she messed up in the North. Harris didn't do that, and still lost.
It did defy statistics with the swing states. It was a statistical impossibility that he would carry all the swing states. Exit polling reveals the voting statistics/age brackets/race etc. But this is based on 'votes cast'. If the votes cast were illegitimate (which has not been reviewed to any great length) then the exit polls would be wrong.
 
Last edited:
If the votes cast were illegitimate (which has not been reviewed to any great length) then the exit polls would be wrong.
If that many illegitimate votes were cast and counted as legitimate, and no trace of them has ever been uncovered, I’d surmise that it was masterminded by someone a lot smarter than any bunch of trumpsuckers. They’d be a much more cogent, responsible and effective set of leaders than the bunch-o-clowns we are saddled with.
 
People say they want X, but vote Y every time. The GOP is likely to lose seats in the midterms because the GOP is in the White House. Sure, the current political situation with illegal tariffs, monuments, a stupid ass war, whatever the fuck happened in Venezuela, etc... doesn't help the calculus, but in general, the GOP will predictably lose seats because they won the last election.
Statistically this is true. So why when the 2024 election DEFIED statistics, are you so sure it wasn't rigged/cheated?
The exit polling indicated Trump won. It was clear around 9 PM or 9:30 PM from the exit polling alone (after I fixed my initial mess up in the calcs), that Harris lost. I remember bilby speaking otherwise, that we needed to wait. But the Exit Polling would have likewise needed to be corrupted in order to pull of the heist.

The 2024 election did not defy any statistics. The polls showed a very close election. It ended up being a very close election. What 2024 did was correct a misnomer that Clinton lost because she messed up in the North. Harris didn't do that, and still lost.
It did defy statistics with the swing states. It was a statistical impossibility that he would carry all the swing states.
No, that was not statistically impossible. There is nothing in mathematics that precludes whether candidates can or can't win battleground states.

Trump also didn't win anything in 2024 that he hadn't already won in 2016. Additionally, Biden won all of them in 2020, if we don't consider Ohio or Iowa battlegrounds anymore.
Exit polling reveals the voting statistics/age brackets/race etc.
When elections happen, all I do is look at the male/female breakdown and how they voted. That gives you, in most times, the winner. It is quick and generally very accurate.
But this is based on 'votes cast'. If the votes cast were illegitimate (which has not been reviewed to any great length) then the exit polls would be wrong.
How in the world can the exit polls work if the votes cast was manipulated? The exit polls would be weighted towards what should have happened, not the conspiracy.

Additionally, you are floating terribly close to logic used in the anti-vaxxer thread. Well, we don't have the data... but... you can't prove it isn't true.
 
Back
Top Bottom