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Climate Change(d)?

The earth’s atmosphere is a bit more sophisticated than a backyard greenhouse.

I’ve had enough of this nonsense for now.

Carry on worshipping Gore and Greta.
Not really more sophisticated, if you think so how is the atmosphere more sophisticated than a backyard greenhouse?

Again you can not answer the simple questions. Again you cover ignorance with ad homs.

What is it that makes the Earth's surface temperature warm enough to support life?

As to Gore what I saw of him speaking on climate was not impressive. He was actually a bit silly IMO. He was criticized for raising climate issues while living the consumptive life of the rich. He was criticized for using a private jet while speaking against air solution.

I remember Al Gore aka Al Bore.

Al Gore has faced persistent criticism from political opponents and commentators regarding his carbon footprint and travel methods, including occasional private jet charters, though he does not own a personal jet.

Hew as hardly revered by anyone, let alon worshiped.

I had completely forgotten him, had to refresh my memory.

As Loren says, we look at the science not Gore.
 
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-58954530

We've known this was happening for quite a while.

How do we know the world is getting warmer?​

Our planet has been warming rapidly since the dawn of the Industrial Revolution.

The average temperature at the Earth's surface has risen about 1.1C since 1850. Furthermore, each of the last four decades has been warmer than any that preceded it, since the middle of the 19th Century.

These conclusions come from analyses of millions of measurements gathered in different parts of the world. The temperature readings are collected by weather stations on land, on ships and by satellites.

Multiple independent teams of scientists have reached the same result - a spike in temperatures coinciding with the onset of the industrial era.

Scientists can reconstruct temperature fluctuations even further back in time.

Tree rings, ice cores, lake sediments and corals all record a signature of the past climate.

This provides much-needed context to the current phase of warming. In fact, scientists estimate the Earth hasn't been this hot for about 125,000 years.

How do we know humans are responsible for global warming?​

Greenhouse gases - which trap the Sun's heat - are the crucial link between temperature rise and human activities. The most important is carbon dioxide (CO2), because of its abundance in the atmosphere.

We can also tell it's CO2 trapping the Sun's energy. Satellites show less heat from the Earth escaping into space at precisely the wavelengths at which CO2 absorbs radiated energy.

Burning fossil fuels and chopping down trees lead to the release of this greenhouse gas. Both activities exploded after the 19th Century, so it's unsurprising that atmospheric CO2 increased over the same period.

Getty Images An aerial view shows Marathon Petroleum Corp's Los Angeles Refinery, the state's largest producer of gasoline
It's surprising that some people continue to deny what is obvious to the rest of us. Sad.....
 
TSwizzle

Yes, post politics Gore became a face for climate change awareness. So what? I don't know if I'd use the word revered. He had plenty of critics on the left and by climate activists.

Bringing up Gore does not make your case. Until you brought him up I had completely forgoten about him.

Al Gore is the one who launched the “climate crisis” cult into being. He even managed to get his movie into schools. And then there is Greta, who convinced another generation of dunces onto the “climate crisis” nonsense.
Wow. Swizzy’s villain picker must be on vacation. Al Gore? Greta Thunberg?
Scary scary shit, if you’re a spineless weenie. Good thing he has a Doctor, WWII ace and champion golfer defending him from all these threats by dumping imaginary shit on their heads. .

“Insufferable pricks will never get me!”
-cry of the new minted ‘Murkin import
 
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/07/16/...e_code=1.9lA.fViI.tZCv778egDY1&smid=url-share

The NYT, at least so far, doesn't ask for any personal information to allow others to read shared articles.

Higher temperatures and drought conditions are contributing to more intense wildfires and extending the summer fire season in North America.

When dense clouds of smoke from wildfires in Canada last smothered large parts of North America in 2023, the hazy skies were a shocking new phenomenon for many residents.

But climate change threatens to make it a recurring problem.


“What we’re seeing here is a dramatic increase in wildfires in North America,” said Jonathan Overpeck, a climate scientist and professor at the University of Michigan. As long as humans continue to burn fossil fuels, Dr. Overpeck said, global temperatures will increase, droughts will worsen, and there will be bigger, more frequent wildfires and smoke events.

The haze hanging over much of the United States today, Dr. Overpeck said, is “the harbinger of worse times to come.”

For years, burning forests in Indonesia have sent a thick haze across Southeast Asia that can ground flights in Kuala Lumpur and envelope Singapore in smog.

Air pollution from wildfire smoke caused nearly 164,000 deaths in the 15 years leading up to 2020, and approximately 15,000 of the fatalities were a direct result of climate change. And if the current rate of global warming persists, exposure to wildfire smoke will kill an estimated 70,000 people each year by 2050, according to research published last year.

What would these scientists who have studied human influenced climate change know?
 
I know TSwizzle isn't going to have an honest answer to this, but let's say there was an asteroid headed to Earth in a couple decades, that was going to cause destruction on a large scale. No one would be allowed to make it a political issue?
 
Carry on worshipping Gore and Greta.
Carry on ignoring the countless researchers who back up their claims. You're just like the Creationists who dismiss all of the evidence for evolution.
 
I know TSwizzle isn't going to have an honest answer to this, but let's say there was an asteroid headed to Earth in a couple decades, that was going to cause destruction on a large scale. No one would be allowed to make it a political issue?
Pay attention, GN.
DON’T LOOK UP!
 
Pay attention, GN.
DON’T LOOK UP!
Also I suppose we shouldn't make vaccines a political issue, even though one particular party is fearmongering and actively working against them too.
 
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Pay attention, GN.
DON’T LOOK UP!
Also I suppose we shouldn't make vaccines a political issue, even though one particular party is fearmongering against them too.
Of course vaccines should be available to everyone, but administering them without a scaremongering bullshit story needs to be illegal according to mainstream MAGAts.
 
The earth’s atmosphere is a bit more sophisticated than a backyard greenhouse.

I’ve had enough of this nonsense for now.

Carry on worshipping Gore and Greta.
"Greenhouse effect" is an analogy...
No, it's accurate.

Visible light goes through easily, infrared doesn't go back out easily. Exactly the same thing with glass in the greenhouse vs CO2 in the atmosphere.
 
I was trying to get TSwizzle to acknowledge that natural occurring greenhouse gases are what keeps the Earth from freezing.

Then it is a short leap to understand human added greenhouse gases raises temp;overture.
 
I was trying to get TSwizzle to acknowledge that natural occurring greenhouse gases are what keeps the Earth from freezing.

Then it is a short leap to understand human added greenhouse gases raises temp;overture.
Swiz is an armchair kinda scientist.
He don’t do leaps. Causality consists of “bad things happen because “woke”, and “billionaires know best”.
 
AI Overview
Ice age cycles are primarily driven by Milankovitch cycles, which are predictable changes in Earth's orbit and rotation around the sun.



An ice age is a period of time when decreased temperature of Earth's surface and atmosphere results in the prolonged presence or expansion of continental alpine glaciers and polar ice caps. The term is applied in several different senses to very long and comparatively short periods of cooling. An ice age may consist of numerous sub-periods where the global temperature and glaciation fluctuates, with the colder periods called glacials, and relatively warmer periods called interglacials.

Earth's climate alternates between icehouse and greenhouse periods based on whether there are glaciers on the planet, and for most of Earth's history it has been in a greenhouse period with little or no permanent ice. Over the very long term, Earth is currently in an icehouse period called the Late Cenozoic Ice Age, which started 34 million years ago. There have been colder and warmer periods within this ice age, and the term is also applied to the Quaternary glaciation, which started 2.58 million years ago. Within this period, the Last Interglacial ended 115,000 years ago, and was followed by the Last Glacial Period (LGP), which gave way to the current warm Holocene, which started 11,700 years ago. The most severe cold period of the LGP was the Last Glacial Maximum, which reached its maximum between 26,000 and 20,000 years ago. The most recent glaciation was the Younger Dryas between 12,800 and 11,700 years ago.




Milankovitch cycles describe the collective effects of changes in the Earth's movements on its climate over thousands of years. The phenomenon is named after the Serbian geophysicist and astronomer Milutin Milanković. In the 1920s, he provided a more definitive and quantitative analysis than James Croll's earlier hypothesis that variations in eccentricity, axial tilt, and precession combined to result in cyclical variations in the intra-annual and latitudinal distribution of solar radiation at the Earth's surface, and that this orbital forcing strongly influenced the Earth's climatic patterns.[1][2][3]
 
Ice ages are also contributed to by the pattern of continental drift. The closure of Panama, about 3 million years ago, led to the establishment of the North Atlantic circulation, carrying warm water towards the North Pole; Ice Ages are more likely to occur, or to be severe and prolonged, when the oceans (and atmosphere) have a clear path to circulate around the planet within the tropics, and less so when there are landmasses preventing that circulation. The free circulation of the Southern Ocean at the "Roaring Forties" close to 40°S latitude, and the presence of land at the South Pole, are the chief contributors to today's realtively colder polar climate in the South, as compared to the North.
 
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