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I have watch some of the Councils meetings on this.
They voted last week to have a moratorium on data centers.
Is there any of this going on in your area?
The national tread seems to be very negative.
Is this just a “NIMBY” issue or do people actually not want data centers to exist at all? That would seem strange in this modern world. Hope they are storing their printed photos in shoeboxes under their beds, I guess.
 
I have watch some of the Councils meetings on this.
They voted last week to have a moratorium on data centers.
Is there any of this going on in your area?
The national tread seems to be very negative.
Is this just a “NIMBY” issue or do people actually not want data centers to exist at all? That would seem strange in this modern world. Hope they are storing their printed photos in shoeboxes under their beds, I guess.
I wonder how big a bed I’d need for a terabyte of printed 5 by 7s.
 
We have the same issues going on in Texas. In some cases it's definitely NIMBY, where the proposed center would edge up right to the property lines of suburban houses. In other cases it's legitimate concern over water usage and electric power usage, both of which must be carefully monitored in our climate. I understand that the newer models of data centers use closed cooling systems, so water usage can be held to a minimum. Texas' fragile power grid is another matter.

The governor, once a champion of data center construction, believing Trump that they are "the new oil," is facing a tough reelection, and has issued a moratorium on new centers.
 
Is this just a “NIMBY” issue or do people actually not want data centers to exist at all?
Neither. People were OK with datacentres when there weren't an utterly absurd number of hugely power- and water-hungry ones crammed full of GPUs running Large Language Models that exist ONLY to keep pumping more hot air into the "AI" bubble.

"AI" does nothing that is valuable enough (or within three orders of magnitude of valuable enough) to justify the amount of money and resources that are being pumped into this datacentre construction frenzy. And it is almost certain that it never will.

Tidying up some emails, writing legal briefs that cite non-existent precedents, and making fake photos and videos, is vaguely nice to have, but it's not going to ever be worth the insane sums of money that are being invested.

At this point, even the investors don't think the stuff will ever turn a profit; They are running up the price because they believe that when the music stops, they will have been smart enough to grab a seat before there were none left.

Investing in a bubble can make you rich, if you have the testicular fortitude to hang on through the blips, AND the ability to cash out at the top of the curve.

These datacentres are just the visible signs of this aquisitive insanity; They will soak up power and water and land and resources and lives, until the bubble inevitably goes "pop!", and they become derelict shells.

I wouldn't want one anywhere near me, either. (And I would actively welcome, for example, a nuclear power plant in my neighbourhood. I am no luddite nor NIMBY).
 
I have watch some of the Councils meetings on this.
They voted last week to have a moratorium on data centers.
Is there any of this going on in your area?
The national tread seems to be very negative.
Is this just a “NIMBY” issue or do people actually not want data centers to exist at all? That would seem strange in this modern world. Hope they are storing their printed photos in shoeboxes under their beds, I guess.
I asked Google and it said everyone is fine with them and what the fuck is my problem?
 
They should fast-track development of metal-cooled “fast reactors”, and they could put all the “data centers” in the middle of Nevada wasteland (Area51) or the salt flats or anywhere else people are not.
 
But no. The polling numbers I seen recently has people heavily against them to the tune of about seventy percent. The NIMBY numbers are a bit higher but near them or not, people are heavily opposed.
 
I would agree the power and water issues need to be addressed prior to going hog wild on building these. IIRC, many (most?) will have their own power sources, separate from the grid. As far as a massive building being built, we build new factories, Costcos, stadiums, skyscrapers, etc. all the time. Are the data centers really any different in that regard? I wonder if a lot of the pushback is just people flat out rejecting new, "scary" ways of doing things like has happened since the beginning of time. We went through this when electric power came to our homes, nuclear energy, fracking, cell phone towers, GMOs, etc.
 
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