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Will he be fired or impeached/convicted?

For that vile piece of shit:

Today Trump offered:

Trump offers latest full-throated endorsement of Hegseth as impeachment vote looms​

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I've noticed that when Trump offers a "full-throated endorsement" that usually means that the person will leave within the week. That's just the way it seems to go.



But if not, Hagseth should be removed for:

Terrible advice on whether to start a war with Iran
Terrible failed war with no goals met and the strait blockage that should have been expected
Illegal killings of 200+ people in boats
Illegal firings of many generals and admirals for no reasons made clear, disproportonately female and non-white but many for just following the orders of the Biden administration
Serious violations of separation of church and state
Weakening military readiness by depleting stockpiles and firing respected generals and admirals and generally telling everyone that only masculine white Christians are welcome in the military
and generally being completely incompetent

The guy is a slime and an incompetent

I sure hope that he goes away really fast.
 
I would like to see him impeached so he's disqualified from public service in the future, but not at the expense of putting all of fault of Iran at his feet.
 
Your list is comprehensive and includes all the basic heinous malefactions of this aging adolescent.
I can only add that his performative hyper-masculinity (he seems to be conjuring up the leadership style of the most bellicose Viking chieftan of, say, 900 CE) helps make us the laughing-stock of the western world. His obsession with testosterone is as bizarre as Patel bringing bestiality into a discussion of hiring practices at the FBI. Petey is also, like Trump, a snowflake who can't stand criticism and who's had subordinates undergo lie detector tests if he thinks they leaked unflattering, i.e., true, details about his horrible leadership style at DoW (which is another thing...)

For some reason a childhood memory comes back to me when I see Heggy put on his caricature of manliness. (The rest of this post can be skipped unless you want to go on a pretty wild tangent.)
I would've been around 6 or 7, so this happened somewhere about 1960-61. I was enrolled in YMCA's Indian Guides, which was modeled on the Boy Scouts. Today they're called Adventure Scouts. The idea was for dads and sons to do woodsy activities and share in the masculine identity.
One weekend the Y had reserved some cabins for my tribe, and dads and sons would spend two days doing outdoor activities together.
Late on a Friday afternoon, we gathered at a nature camp and carried our camping gear into the cabin. There was a room for the dads' bunks, and a long sleeping room lined with bunkbeds for us kids. Our #1 objective was to get our sleeping bags unrolled and our stuff put away, and then wait for the announcement for dinner.
So we were sitting on our bunks when the damndest thing happened. One of the dads (I knew his son from my class in school) came out of the dad's room stark naked and started pacing the length of our sleeping room. I'll never forget the sight. He was a redhead, with a furry red chest and what to me looked like ape genitals. He was talking the entire time, something about proper behavior and growing up as good American boys, but, honestly, with his dick swinging at every step, I didn't process a word of what he was saying.
He must have thought that this was what we young lads needed, to hear an authoritative voice from a burly, buck naked American adult. I was on a top bunk, so I watched his parade with amazement. Had we been a few years older, there would have been snickers and maybe catcalls of "Cover your wiener!" but I remember that we kept perfect silence. It was an experience for which we had no preparation and no idea of how to respond. After he went back into the dad's room, I don't even think I asked Barry (his redhead son) if his dad was nuts. All of our dads were from the WWII generation, so he may have been channeling some experience from the army barracks, who the hell knows.
Anyway...I think that's called phallocentrism, and it reminds me of Heggy and why I think of him as a giant dick. (Maybe not quite as big as Barry's dad's dick.)
 
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Bronzeage said:
Trump's deep throated endorsement is usually the kiss of death.
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And as the old joke goes, if Don Jr. were found to be dragging down the Don himself, Trump would happily cut him loose and say "I hardly knew the guy."

It is too early to tell, but at least on some level, Fragilego Mussolini seems to grasp that his Presidency is well and truly fucked, and if someone like Susie Wiles has been thrown under the bus, his wrath at the people he blames for it is just beginning. Based on the bonkers 60 Minutes interview, he understands that the Iran war is partially to blame, and Whiskey Pete may very well be blamed for that clusterfuck...as he should.

The real question is whether the lame duck GOP Congress will find the spine/try to save face enough to actually impeach AND remove him. I have my doubts.
 
Ford said:
Bronzeage said:
Trump's deep throated endorsement is usually the kiss of death.
Click to expand...

And as the old joke goes, if Don Jr. were found to be dragging down the Don himself, Trump would happily cut him loose and say "I hardly knew the guy."

It is too early to tell, but at least on some level, Fragilego Mussolini seems to grasp that his Presidency is well and truly fucked, and if someone like Susie Wiles has been thrown under the bus, his wrath at the people he blames for it is just beginning. Based on the bonkers 60 Minutes interview, he understands that the Iran war is partially to blame, and Whiskey Pete may very well be blamed for that clusterfuck...as he should.

The real question is whether the lame duck GOP Congress will find the spine/try to save face enough to actually impeach AND remove him. I have my doubts.
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The GOP will be more than happy to run out the clock, while trying to limit the splash back to potential 2028 candidates. Beyond that, they aren't going to care what happens to Trump. Anyone currently connected to the Trump administration is going to self immolate in the early GOP primaries. Any current GOP Senator or Representative has an albatross hanging from their neck.

Any GOP nominee will has two choices. The first is to claim to be "true MAGA" and explain that Trump succumbed to the dark side. The second is to repudiate Trump and claim to be "true Republican". Either course brings down the Truth Social wrath of Trump. Whichever it is, the candidate is going to be someone fairly unfamiliar. It's going to be fun to watch.
 
Proof that Hegseth doesn't belong in his position is that he accepted the job in the first place.

I like to think I' well educated but if offered such a position of power, my response would be, "You want me to do what???"

The point is that these people aren't just unqualified, they're not even aware that they're not qualified. They seem to approach it like it's some semester long guest lecturer gig at a state university.
 
crazyfingers said:
Will he be fired or impeached/convicted?

For that vile piece of shit:

Today Trump offered:

Trump offers latest full-throated endorsement of Hegseth as impeachment vote looms​

Click to expand...

I've noticed that when Trump offers a "full-throated endorsement" that usually means that the person will leave within the week. That's just the way it seems to go.



But if not, Hagseth should be removed for:

Terrible advice on whether to start a war with Iran
Terrible failed war with no goals met and the strait blockage that should have been expected
Illegal killings of 200+ people in boats
Illegal firings of many generals and admirals for no reasons made clear, disproportonately female and non-white but many for just following the orders of the Biden administration
Serious violations of separation of church and state
Weakening military readiness by depleting stockpiles and firing respected generals and admirals and generally telling everyone that only masculine white Christians are welcome in the military
and generally being completely incompetent

The guy is a slime and an incompetent

I sure hope that he goes away really fast.
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Signal chat leak.
 
Here's a link to the articles of impeachment at the house website


The main topics are:

ARTICLE I: WAGING WAR IN CONTRAVENTION OF THE WAR POWERS RESOLUTION OF 1973 SECTION 2(c)
(Iran)

ARTICLE II: WAGING WAR IN CONTRAVENTION OF THE WAR POWERS RESOLUTION OF 1973 SECTION 5(c)
(Iran)

ARTICLE III: WAGING WAR IN CONTRAVENTION OF THE WAR POWERS RESOLUTION OF 1973 SECTION 5(b)
9Iran)

ARTICLE IV: IGNORING LAWS THAT MINIMIZE CIVILIAN CASUALTIES
(Iran school, and etc..)

ARTICLE V: EXTRAJUDICIAL KILLINGS
(Blowing up civilians in boats)

ARTICLE VI: SUPPRESSING FREE SPEECH
(Trying to punish Sen. Kelly over illegal orders video)

ARTICLE VII: KIDNAPPING OF A SOVERIGN FOREIGN LEADER
( Venezuela )

ARTICLE VIII: UNLAWFUL WAR IN YEMEN
 
crazyfingers said:
and least qualified Dec. of Defense ever.
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Remember....he is the Sec of WAR. Officially, there is no department with that name. So any funding requests that come from the "Department of War" should be trashed as you can't fund a department that doesn't exist.
 
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