thebeave
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Was it a shock when Liberace came out as gay? Not to me, but apparently some people were flabbergasted.
How gays sound like
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steve_bank
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DrZ
In the OP tittle when it comes to speech by gay do you mean both gay men and lesbian women, or just gay men?
A derogatory for men is effeminate, for women dikes. Dike referring in part to masculine speech by women.
Over here gay can refer to both or specifically men.
Over here the current liberal politically correct inclusive term is LGBTQ+. Using the acronym in speech can be awkward, it doesn't flow. Easier to jjust say gay.
In the OP tittle when it comes to speech by gay do you mean both gay men and lesbian women, or just gay men?
A derogatory for men is effeminate, for women dikes. Dike referring in part to masculine speech by women.
Over here gay can refer to both or specifically men.
Over here the current liberal politically correct inclusive term is LGBTQ+. Using the acronym in speech can be awkward, it doesn't flow. Easier to jjust say gay.
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DrZoidberg
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If someone thinks effimacy in a man is derogatory, they're just misogynists. It's not more complicated than that.
If a man hates gays, they're obviously fantasizing about getting reamed by cocks, are attracted to men and feel troubled about it. Obvoiusly.
The OP is about gay men, because the video is by and for gay men.
The gay community over here has swung completely to the other side. What used to be called stuff like "Terfs". Lesbians are sick of transwomen steamrolling their community and taking over (you know... the thing men often do which women are annoyed about, which is why women like having their own spaces). Gays and bis are sick of straight guys pretending to be bi in order to score pussy. It's a harder climate now. The time when queers would automatically embrace any weirdo because they're a misfit is over. The acronym today is routinely shorted to whatever sexualities the specific event caters to. The + is rare today. If you see a + today it's a sign put up by a gay "ally" who don't know any gays and who have nothing to do with the community.
USA has always been more woke. But I suspect the same shift in queer culture will happen over there... eventually.
steve_bank
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OMG! Conflict, power struggles, bias, and prejudice in the gay community. Who would have ever thunk it. Goes to show gays are as human as the rest of us.
When I was growingup, 50s 60s, as an insult a hetero would call a hetero gay, queer, faggot. or effeminate. Nothing to do with misogyny.
If one guy wanted to provoke or pick a fight with a guy one way was to call him queer or a fag. Today hate speech laws and a cultural shift towards gay rights have diminished it.
Back in the 80s when I was in Portland a gay sports club made the news when it would not admit bisexuals.
When I was growingup, 50s 60s, as an insult a hetero would call a hetero gay, queer, faggot. or effeminate. Nothing to do with misogyny.
If one guy wanted to provoke or pick a fight with a guy one way was to call him queer or a fag. Today hate speech laws and a cultural shift towards gay rights have diminished it.
Back in the 80s when I was in Portland a gay sports club made the news when it would not admit bisexuals.
DrZoidberg
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It's not bias and prejudice. It's gays taking a hard long look at who they are, what they want and who they want to hang out with. That's a healthy development imho.
You're not a horrible person because you want to exclude people you can't or don't want to relate to. That's showing self love and self compassion.
Yes, gays are humans, like the rest of us. And like the rest of us, should be working on loving themselves, as well as the world.
Yes it was. And now it's not. The gay rights movement won. They have conquered the west. That struggle has now moved into the developing world. There the fight is important. But here the fight is over.
Being different means being a minority. It means living in a world that isn't designed to cater to your specific needs. That will never change. Gays just need to learn to live with that. If they don't straights will (and should) find them obnoxious and self entitled. Woke is dead today. So this is the world now. The gays without blue hair and a thousand piercings in the face, are cool with it and are busy enjoying life, rather than continuing to fight a war.... they long ago won.
I got my finger very close to the pulse on this one since my girlfriend is a lesbian actvist, and used to be, very much, central to the Swedish gay rights movement. Many of our friends are at the current core of the Swedish gay rights movement. Over the last five years the vibe has turned dramatically.
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DrZoidberg
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I should modify this a little. Gay rights in Scandinavia is today working for gay acceptance among Muslim immigrants. That's a massive problem here. Muslims in general are about as gay friendly as Adolf Hitler. Since 2015 Sweden has a lot of Afghan refugees. And their view on homosexuality is horriffic. Its especially rough for ethnic Afghan lesbians. So there is still work to be done over here
Elixir
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Are you saying Muslims are gay?
I don’t know, but would surmise that Muslims’ sexual preferences are not one bit different from those of any other group of 2 billion people.
