How should west respond to Russian invasion of Ukraine?

[steve_bank]

I bet there are many angry Russians who would like to see Putin dead..

Not many at all, and certainly not as many as Ukrainians who would like to see Elensky dead.

I am replacing my earthquake emergency canned foods, expired dates.

You are welcome to them.

 

[barbos]

I bet there are many angry Russians who would like to see Putin dead..

Not many at all, and certainly not as many as Ukrainians who would like to see Elensky dead.

I am replacing my earthquake emergency canned foods, expired dates.

You are welcome to them.

Does someone need to call ambulance for you?

 

[steve_bank]

I bet there are many angry Russians who would like to see Putin dead..

Not many at all, and certainly not as many as Ukrainians who would like to see Elensky dead.

I am replacing my earthquake emergency canned foods, expired dates.

You are welcome to them.

Does someone need to call ambulance for you?

No I don;t, why do you ask?

I was just trying to help you out with food considering the high prices on Russian food.

 

[steve_bank]

AI Overview
Russia is currently facing notable consumer and retail fuel shortages alongside surging prices for basic goods.


Fuel Shortages
Gasoline and Diesel: Widespread [ fuel shortages and rationing have hit gas stations across multiple regions in Russia, including parts of southern Russia, Crimea, St. Petersburg, and the Moscow area

Causes: Ukrainian drone strikes on major domestic oil refineries have knocked significant refining capacity offline, forcing limits on fuel purchases per vehicle and prompting export bans on petroleum products.

Price Surges and Economic Strain
Everyday Goods: While general supermarket shelves are not empty in the same way as specialized industrial or fuel sectors, consumers face rapid price inflation on basic items

Specific Increases: Cost-of-living pressures have driven sharp jumps in the prices of fresh produce, dairy, and household utilities, compounded by previous tax hikes and high central bank interest rates.


Labor Shortages: An acute national shortfall of workers across retail, transport, and industrial sectors continues to strain supply chains and service availability.

AI Overview
Russia is facing severe industrial and domestic supply chain shortages, most notably a systemic fuel crisis driven by Ukrainian drone strikes.

Fuel and Energy Shortages
Refinery Reductions: Attacks have knocked out or idled a substantial percentage of Russia's primary oil refining and diesel-producing capacity, cutting output by up to 20% on certain days

Geographic Spread: Gasoline and diesel shortages have expanded across more than 20 to 57 regions, affecting the Far East, occupied Crimea, St. Petersburg, and the Volga region.


Rationing and Closures: Long queues, purchase limits (such as 5-gallon caps), and station closures have forced Moscow to extend bans on gasoline and diesel exports. Independent gas stations, representing roughly 40% of the market, struggle the most due to high borrowing costs and lack of product.

Logistics and Warehousing Disruptions

E-commerce Hubs: Military and logistics disruptions have targeted major e-commerce infrastructure inside Russia, including key Wildberries and Ozon hubs, causing massive inventory losses and paralyzing regional distribution networks

Manufacturing and Defense Bottlenecks: Continued international sanctions and localized logistics failures have strained high-tech manufacturing, restricting components like specialized drone engines and raw industrial metals.

I expect there is more than a few who want to see Putin out.

 

[barbos]

 

[barbos]

No I don;t, why do you ask?

Looks like you had a stroke.

 

[barbos]

AI Overview
Russia is currently facing notable consumer and retail fuel shortages alongside surging prices for basic goods.


Fuel Shortages
Gasoline and Diesel: Widespread [ fuel shortages and rationing have hit gas stations across multiple regions in Russia, including parts of southern Russia, Crimea, St. Petersburg, and the Moscow area

Causes: Ukrainian drone strikes on major domestic oil refineries have knocked significant refining capacity offline, forcing limits on fuel purchases per vehicle and prompting export bans on petroleum products.

Price Surges and Economic Strain
Everyday Goods: While general supermarket shelves are not empty in the same way as specialized industrial or fuel sectors, consumers face rapid price inflation on basic items

Specific Increases: Cost-of-living pressures have driven sharp jumps in the prices of fresh produce, dairy, and household utilities, compounded by previous tax hikes and high central bank interest rates.


Labor Shortages: An acute national shortfall of workers across retail, transport, and industrial sectors continues to strain supply chains and service availability.

AI Overview
Russia is facing severe industrial and domestic supply chain shortages, most notably a systemic fuel crisis driven by Ukrainian drone strikes.

Fuel and Energy Shortages
Refinery Reductions: Attacks have knocked out or idled a substantial percentage of Russia's primary oil refining and diesel-producing capacity, cutting output by up to 20% on certain days

Geographic Spread: Gasoline and diesel shortages have expanded across more than 20 to 57 regions, affecting the Far East, occupied Crimea, St. Petersburg, and the Volga region.


Rationing and Closures: Long queues, purchase limits (such as 5-gallon caps), and station closures have forced Moscow to extend bans on gasoline and diesel exports. Independent gas stations, representing roughly 40% of the market, struggle the most due to high borrowing costs and lack of product.

Logistics and Warehousing Disruptions

E-commerce Hubs: Military and logistics disruptions have targeted major e-commerce infrastructure inside Russia, including key Wildberries and Ozon hubs, causing massive inventory losses and paralyzing regional distribution networks

Manufacturing and Defense Bottlenecks: Continued international sanctions and localized logistics failures have strained high-tech manufacturing, restricting components like specialized drone engines and raw industrial metals.

I expect there is more than a few who want to see Putin out.

AI idiot does a good job of summarising BS ciculating in western gargbage media.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Neptune Missile Hits Russian Admiral Essen Frigate

The Ukrainian Navy struck the Admiral Essen frigate in Novorossiysk with a Neptune missile on the night of September 9.

militarnyi.com

And, once again, we have a situation where we see how badly the Russian systems perform. That ship has a reasonably modern VLS SAM system--and yet Ukraine considered it reasonable to fire one missile at it. This is not merely that they failed to pick off the missile, but that Ukraine had an expectation that they probably wouldn't be able to intercept it.

 

[steve_bank]

I used the AI summary instead of writting ti all out.

It summarizes what I have seen in reporting and what I have read online from mainstream sources..

Russian labor shortages have been reposted. Along with the decking Russian population to begin with. Before the war Russia was using North Korean labor. Niobidy else wants to work in Russia.

Russian in inflation has been reported.

Russia or anywhere, fuel shortages lead to higher transportation costs and higher prices for goods. An inflation driver.

Of couse you will argue Russia is no different than before the war? All is well?


Reported in finical news for some time.

AI Overview
Russia will not face a sudden, exact calendar date where it completely runs out of money, but its emergency cash reserves are nearly gone and its war economy is under extreme strain.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

No, you go away. You stop invading countries. And stop threatening to nuke everyone.

Where are we threatening to nuke anyone??

I do agree our clown should not be doing what he's doing. But that's a recent thing.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

The above bold is looney

Dude, after what you did with Venezuela?

I believe that you will have trouble finding anyone on this forum who doesn't agree with "What Trump did to Venezuela was a war crime!"
Same as the attack on Iran.
Tell everyone about how many Russians think that the attack on Ukraine is a war crime.
Tom

No. What he did to Venezuela is very wrong, but not a war crime.

And what's happened in Iran is an epic fuckup, but war crime requires intent.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

I used the AI summary instead of writting ti all out.

It summarizes what I have seen in reporting and what I have read online from mainstream sources..

The problem is that AI has no ability to think critically. It's going to fall for propaganda every time.

 

[TV and credit cards]

Neptune Missile Hits Russian Admiral Essen Frigate

The Ukrainian Navy struck the Admiral Essen frigate in Novorossiysk with a Neptune missile on the night of September 9.

militarnyi.com

And, once again, we have a situation where we see how badly the Russian systems perform. That ship has a reasonably modern VLS SAM system--and yet Ukraine considered it reasonable to fire one missile at it. This is not merely that they failed to pick off the missile, but that Ukraine had an expectation that they probably wouldn't be able to intercept it.

Nothing works because all they can afford is fresh paint.

Been there. Done that. This is how the USS Sterett (CG31 variety) was stationed in the Philippines. Twelve years in the PI without an overhaul.

 

[Tigers!]

Neptune Missile Hits Russian Admiral Essen Frigate

The Ukrainian Navy struck the Admiral Essen frigate in Novorossiysk with a Neptune missile on the night of September 9.

militarnyi.com

And, once again, we have a situation where we see how badly the Russian systems perform. That ship has a reasonably modern VLS SAM system--and yet Ukraine considered it reasonable to fire one missile at it. This is not merely that they failed to pick off the missile, but that Ukraine had an expectation that they probably wouldn't be able to intercept it.

The Ukrainians must be running out of surface naval targets in the Black sea by now.

The report states

The ship is also equipped with the Shtil-1 surface-to-air missile system

I think they misspelt the system name and added a redundant letter.

 

[ZiprHead]

Neptune Missile Hits Russian Admiral Essen Frigate

The Ukrainian Navy struck the Admiral Essen frigate in Novorossiysk with a Neptune missile on the night of September 9.

militarnyi.com

And, once again, we have a situation where we see how badly the Russian systems perform. That ship has a reasonably modern VLS SAM system--and yet Ukraine considered it reasonable to fire one missile at it. This is not merely that they failed to pick off the missile, but that Ukraine had an expectation that they probably wouldn't be able to intercept it.

The Ukrainians must be running out of surface naval targets in the Black sea by now.

The report states

The ship is also equipped with the Shtil-1 surface-to-air missile system

I think they misspelt the system name and added a redundant letter.

I see what you did there.

 

[TV and credit cards]

It's election time in Russia.

"Good evening and welcome to tonight's campaign speeches by candidates for Duma Electoral District 158," said the anchor on state TV.
The studio director cut to a wide shot revealing six empty lecterns.