Noah’s Ark Found!!

[hyzer]

Thus fossils visible “on the top” of a mountain aren't generally shells deposited on an already-existing mountaintop by an extraordinarily high ocean. They're fossils inside former seafloor rocks that became the mountain.

I always find these ideas intriguing as answers, which could be various explanations mentioned in posts, - being curious about the bit (the viewpoint), before there were mountains. It will be an interesting conversation..me thinks.

How to say "I don't know anything about geology" without saying "I don't know anything about geology". Forget the whole "English language" thing about how the sea life is fossilized, in the bedrock.

In my life, I have uncovered a few fossils (trilobytes), deep in shales (100+ feet of shale rock). Fissile deposits that took a long time to settle out, and then an even longer time to become rock. Most things in geology indicate a very very painfully slow process of time and pressure. Anything in geology that involves significant in the moment forces stick out like a sore thumb and are not common.

I love how the creationist opinion is that all the types of shellfish climbed all the mountains on earth during the flood and somehow burrowed into the mud that somehow covered all of the mountains during the flood only to become fossils from the non-existent weight when the mud and water receded . . . . and they all lived happily ever after. The End.

 

[bilby]

The idea that Noah's Ark could still be in one piece despite being exposed to the atmosphere and insects is just yet another "I have no idea what I'm talking about" aspect to people who insist the Global Flood as told in the Jewish scriptures happened.

It's not the "I have no idea what I'm talking about" that really grinds my gears, it is the implied corollary "but I just make shit up to fill in the gaps, so probably that's what everyone else does, so therefore they are just as full of shit as I am, and hence I can believe whatever I like, because no claims are better than any other claims, except the ones in the Bible which must be true because, duh, they are in the Bible".

 

[DBT]

But, but....the Bible is the Good Book, inspired by God, a God of Love and tender kindness, full of wisdom, brotherhood, goodness.....

 

[steve_bank]

The ancient Mediterranean was a busy place for shipping.

Ancient Shipwrecks of the Mediterranean

Notable discoveries

Uluburun Shipwreck (Late Bronze Age, c. 14th century BCE) – Found off Turkey’s Kaş coast in 1982, this merchant vessel carried a remarkable cargo: copper ingots from Cyprus, tin possibly from Afghanistan, ivory, ebony, glass beads, gold jewelry, and everyday items like pottery and tools Its contents show extensive trade links between Egypt, Mesopotamia, the Aegean, and beyond.

ntikythera Shipwreck (1st century BCE) – Discovered off Greece in 1900, it yielded the Antikythera Mechanism, an ancient analog computer for predicting astronomical events, alongside statues, glassware, and fine potter

Kekova Island Shipwreck (Early Bronze Age, ~4,700 years old) – The latest major find, uncovered in 2026 off Antalya, Turkey, contains over 30 amphorae with olive oil or wine residue, likely made in the Jordan Valley and shipped toward Troy or Crete

Found in a wreck.

Antikythera mechanism - Wikipedia

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The Antikythera mechanism (/ˌæntɪkɪˈθɪərə/ AN-tik-ih-THEER-ə, US also /ˌæntaɪkɪˈ-/ AN-ty-kih-)[1][2] is an ancient Greek hand-powered orrery (model of the Solar System) built in the 2nd century BC and discovered in 1901. It is the oldest known example of an analogue computer.[3][4][5] It could be used to predict astronomical positions and eclipses decades in advance.[6][7][8] It could also be used to track the four-year cycle of athletic games similar to an olympiad, the cycle of the ancient Olympic Games.[9][10][11]

Lifespan of a Wooden Boat on the Shore Without Maintenance

In the open environment without maintenance, a wooden boat on the shore will typically last only a few years to a decade, depending on wood type, climate, and exposure, before significant rot, insect damage, or UV degradation occurs

 

[Tigers!]

Enoch water to cover the Earth?

The Cascade Range, Rocky Mountains, and Himalayas? Ararat is abo0ut 17,000 feeet. Bible said it rained 24/7 for 40 dasys. Oecan cacute liers per minute for the volume of water.

A Jew on the fiorm said 40 meant a while. It rained for 40 days. Jesus wandered in desert for 40 days. Jews wandered in desert for 40 years.

Significance of the Number 40 in Jewish Tradition

In Jewish thought, the number 40 is a recurring symbol of transformation, testing, and the completion of a major life or spiritual stage. It appears frequently in the Torah and Talmud, often marking periods of change, purification, or divine intervention J

Key biblical and rabbinic examples

40 days of rain during the Great Flood (Genesis 7:4, 12, 17) — symbolically reversing the corruption of creation

40 days Moses spent on Mount Sinai receiving the Torah (Exodus 24:18) — a period of divine revelation and transformation

40 years Israel wandered in the desert — a generational cycle of testing and spiritual maturation

Jesus was tempted in the desert for 40 days
Jesus' ascension after the cruxification 40 days
Time for the Jews to reach Mt Sinal after the crossing of the Red Sea - 40 days.

The number 40 does appear an awful lot.

What Modern Jewish Scholars Say the Noah Story Meant

Contemporary Jewish scholars interpret the Noah story in multiple layers — theological, ethical, ecological, and symbolic — drawing on both ancient rabbinic traditions and modern thought.

Many commentators see Noah as a tzadik (righteous) “in his generation,” but note the nuance: his righteousness is relative to the corruption around him. Some, like Prof. Ze’ev Falk, argue that Noah’s failure to warn others reflects a divine pattern — God does not save a “crooked and perverse generation” (Deut. 32:5). Others emphasize that Noah’s covenant with God (Gen. 9) establishes universal moral laws, such as prohibitions against bloodshed, theft, sexual violence, and animal cruelty, as recorded in Sanhedrin 56a This is seen as a foundational ethical framework for all humanity.
Symbolic and Universal Themes
Rabbi Sarah Bracha Gershuny highlights the ark as a symbol of shared human vulnerability — “we are all in the same boat” — and the three decks as representing the three levels of the human soul . The story is also read as a covenantal moment, making Noah the first human to enter into a binding agreement with God, predating Abraham’s covenant

Ecological and Environmental Readings
Some modern scholars, including JTS’s Obadiah Sforno, interpret the “lawlessness” of Noah’s time as environmental destruction, with the flood as a divine reset for the planet

Others link the ark’s preservation of species to the idea of maintaining biodiversity and avoiding “crossbreeding” between humans and divine creatures, a theme in the Midrash Tanhuma

Rabbinic Expansions and Mystical Layers
The Talmud and midrash expand the narrative: Noah is imagined planting the trees for the ark’s wood, warning people of the coming flood, and even inventing the plow. he Zohar and later Kabbalistic thought sometimes contrast Noah’s generation with those of Abraham, Moses, and David, and see the flood as a cosmic purification

5. Contemporary Applications
Today, many rabbis use Parashat Noah to discuss climate change, ethical responsibility, and the need for universal moral standards The story is also read as a cautionary tale about human arrogance and a reminder that survival depends on aligning with divine justice.

Granted it is an AI summary, but it highlights that Christian literalists who try to proce an allegorical story actually happened are very simple minded. Chi dish.