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I never really paid much attention to Russell Brand. I tried watching one of his stand up comedy specials but I tapped out after about ten minutes, I thought it was terrible. I heard about Brand and Ross calling national treasure Andrew Sachs and leaving crude and offensive messages on Sachs' answering machine. What is noteworthy about this incident is it was allowed to air on the BBC. The BBC really is a cesspit of warped people. Brand appeared in a few low brow comedies that were quite successful at the box office and seems to have been quite a prolific performer in the USA and was once married to famous US astronaut Katy Perry. Since his conviction of the rape and sexual assault charges I've had a lot of snippets of video of Brand showing him in the worst possible light including one video of him discussing the time his father took him on a sex tourism holiday in Thailand (or Hong Kong) when he was a teenager which was well icky. Brand seems to be an annoying prick but also a huge sex pest to women. I don't understand what women see in this guy other than his fame and money. Brand took full advantage of the situation and never hid it. In fact he seems to have pretty much made his career of being a notorious "shagger". He was found guilty of anally raping a woman by a jury and this charge alone counted for nine years of his ten year sentence. I think the jury probably got it right.
 
I had no idea who he is or why anyone would care, same for most in entertainment.

I'd chalk it up as yet another self destructive abusive entertainment figure.

Yawn. More of the news media filling time 24/7.
 
I vaguely remembered him from some rom com that my wife made me watch once upon a time. Then he showed up in the Joe Rogan sphere of macho right wing dumbassery and conspiracy theories. Aliens, antivax, alt-medicine,anti-fem, any pseudoscientific Jordan Peterson go take you testosterone boosters and roids crap he could grab, and a little bit of god-bothering too…typical “manosphere” meatball garbage.

I don’t pay attention to much pop culture but I do get wrapped up in debunking crap. So when he pops up as some kind of pop guru promoting dum shit conspiracy theories I thought “who the fuck is this gibberish spewing moron that the dummies are holding g up as a twoof teller”? Well, now we know. Except the really entrenched right wing conspiracy fans think this trial was all a made up sham to silence their truth telling hero.
 
TSwizzle said:
I never really paid much attention to Russell Brand. I tried watching one of his stand up comedy specials but I tapped out after about ten minutes, I thought it was terrible. I heard about Brand and Ross calling national treasure Andrew Sachs and leaving crude and offensive messages on Sachs' answering machine. What is noteworthy about this incident is it was allowed to air on the BBC. The BBC really is a cesspit of warped people. Brand appeared in a few low brow comedies that were quite successful at the box office and seems to have been quite a prolific performer in the USA and was once married to famous US astronaut Katy Perry. Since his conviction of the rape and sexual assault charges I've had a lot of snippets of video of Brand showing him in the worst possible light including one video of him discussing the time his father took him on a sex tourism holiday in Thailand (or Hong Kong) when he was a teenager which was well icky. Brand seems to be an annoying prick but also a huge sex pest to women. I don't understand what women see in this guy other than his fame and money. Brand took full advantage of the situation and never hid it. In fact he seems to have pretty much made his career of being a notorious "shagger". He was found guilty of anally raping a woman by a jury and this charge alone counted for nine years of his ten year sentence. I think the jury probably got it right.
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Sounds like the type of guy you vote for.

And have voted for.

With your consent,
 
Another UK celebrity sex pest has been outed.

David Walliams, one of Britain’s best-known television personalities and top-selling children’s authors, has been accused by multiple women of using his power and celebrity status to prey on young women and teenagers for sex. The allegations include accounts from two women who said they first met the star when they were 15 years old. Both women, now in their 30s, said they had been groomed by Walliams and that the experience had affected them for nearly two decades. Walliams, 55, has also been accused of abusing his position to pursue women through the family television show Britain’s Got Talent (BGT) and at his former children’s book publisher HarperCollins, where he had a sexual relationship with a junior member of staff.
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Teh Grauniad

It is not clear if Walliams has broken any laws but Walliams tried to keep his name out of the news with a gag order which has been lifted. Walliams was at least funny in Little Britain.
 
steve_bank said:
I had no idea who he is or why anyone would care, same for most in entertainment.
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It's a broad subject and goes beyond tabloid reporting on the high jinks of celebrity sexual proclivities. People on here seemed to "care" (obsess?) about the Epstein thing. I'm not sure the Brand situation comes under the subject of "Political Discussions" but it is interesting how public figures such as Brand can behave like monsters for decades and be feted and possibly protected by the lefty darlings but when Brand cleans himself up, rehabilitates himself and is embraced by the "right", the shit hits the fan for him and he finds himself doing ten years in jail for a crime committed 20 years ago.
 
steve_bank said:
I had no idea who he is or why anyone would care, same for most in entertainment.

I'd chalk it up as yet another self destructive abusive entertainment figure.

Yawn. More of the news media filling time 24/7.
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Self destructive? Nah. He never thought he’d get into any kind of trouble.

Abusive? Oh, yeah. The celebrity part surely helped attract victims and keep it quiet.
 
I wonder how many of us are following this story simply because RB gives us a serious case of the willies. I've never understood how he became a media sensation in the UK, and then to a lesser extent, the US. He gives off the same creepy vibe as Charles Manson, Lee Van Cleef or Kenneth Copeland. Since he now hauls a Bible around with him and professes a deep Christian faith, it would be the ultimate creepout to see him and Copeland doing a tag team worship service.
He was watchable in Forgetting Sarah Marshall, but that part was a virtual self-portrait. (The interaction between him and Jonah Hill, particularly in the outtakes reel, is soooo disturbing.) I can't watch him without imagining him as some crazed cult leader who orders the cultists around in orgies. One of the Youtube bios shows him a few years ago, doing some sort of healing/New Age appearance, where attendees reached out to touch him. Who the hell would do that!?
I know that right now he is in as wretched a state as Oscar Wilde found himself in 1895. I can sympathize with Wilde, but in RB's case, you wonder if the layers of denial are ever going to peel off.
 
TSwizzle said:
steve_bank said:
I had no idea who he is or why anyone would care, same for most in entertainment.
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It's a broad subject and goes beyond tabloid reporting on the high jinks of celebrity sexual proclivities. People on here seemed to "care" (obsess?) about the Epstein thing. I'm not sure the Brand situation comes under the subject of "Political Discussions" but it is interesting how public figures such as Brand can behave like monsters for decades and be feted and possibly protected by the lefty darlings but when Brand cleans himself up, rehabilitates himself and is embraced by the "right", the shit hits the fan for him and he finds himself doing ten years in jail for a crime committed 20 years ago.
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Putting aside whether Brand was really guilty or not (I don't care and do not know). I think your point is very well taken how 20 years passed before anyone even bothered to go after him! How often does that happen in the real world?....seems very suspicious to say the least.

But in any case, that alone makes this something to be discussed in the political forum IMO
 
Here's a video explaining it. The convictions explaining it seems pretty reasonable. Of the three rape charges he was aquited from two. The one where he was found guilty he had messaged her and apologised. As well as some more evidence.

The rest of the convictions were sexual assaults with evidence.

It seems like an excelent verdict.

 
And now it's David Walliams. It's not a good couple of days for the BBC.



It's almost like absolute power corrupts absolutely.
 
Here's an in depth analysis about Russell Brand's entire career. An interesting detail is that after MeToo women became emboldened to make reports, a lot of women was mentioning Russell Brand. After the comedian Katherine Ryan (a UK comedy heavyweight) outed him on live TV in 2018 as a predator (in true British fashion, maybe a joke, maybe not) he was internally blacklisted from British television and couldn't get any jobs. This was not an official blacklist. Nothing was put in writing. But they all instantly dropped him. His only jobs after this was the odd bit part in Hollywood productions. This is when he shifted over to being mainly a podcaster and conspiracy theorist. After burning those bridges he became a conservative podcaster.



The criminal case against him only became a reality because of years long investigative reporting by a team of journalists. Very expensive. The police would never have that kind of resources. Which shines a light on the economic realities of getting these kinds of guys convicted. It makes me worried about the future. Since big media and big news is dying. All news is basically shifting over to small teams, ad financed on youtube and clips. These teams have high turnover and tiny margins. There's just not the money to have a team of highly trained investigative journalists with the necessary wide network of contacts to keep working on a story, year in and year out, that maybe, maybe not, is a story. That requires quite a large media machine to pay for it.
 
Same podcast on David Walliams. Walliams seems to be a creep rather than a rapist. Which isn't illegal. Only immoral imho.

They talk a lot about the culture around these celebrities that make it possible

 
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